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What is virtue? It is to hold yourself to your fullest development as a person and as a responsible member of the human community. -Arthur Dobrin
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Speaking of thoughts....
I thought I posted this paste here on Clarity but can't find it. I lifted it off Ranters. I need it to educate some dudes elsewhere!
This one:
I thought I posted this paste here on Clarity but can't find it. I lifted it off Ranters. I need it to educate some dudes elsewhere!
This one:
MacKay blames ‘callous’ Chrétien for
helicopter woes
Cyclones due in November still not ready
BY MIKE BLANCHFIELD
Canwest News Service
OTTAWA • Today’s Canadian Forces are feeling the effects of former prime minister Jean Chrétien’s “flippant and callous” 1993 decision to cancel the $4.8-billion contract to replace the military’s ageing fleet of Sea King helicopters, Defence Minister Peter MacKay charged yesterday.
In an exclusive interview with Canwest News Service, Mr. MacKay blamed delays in delivering the first in a new fleet of Sikorsky Cyclone shipborne helicopters squarely at the feet of previous Liberal governments.
One of Mr. Chrétien’s first acts as prime minister in 1993 was to cancel the previous Conservative government’s EH-10 contract to replace the Sea Kings, after deriding the Cormorant chopper as a “Cadillac” and a waste of taxpayers’ money during the federal election campaign that brought him to power.
The Sea King replacement was a political albatross for Mr. Chrétien during his 10 years in power. It wasn’t until his successor, Paul Martin, announced the $5-billion Sikorsky contract in 2004 that it looked like the air force would finally get new maritime helicopters to replace the 1960sera fleet that has become prone to breakdowns and a periodic embarrassment to the military.
The first new Sikorsky aircraft was due in November, but that deadline has come and gone, sparking reports that the delivery is now three years behind schedule.
Mr. MacKay told Canwest the delay has been more like nine to 11 months, but that, he said, is still not acceptable.
“It’s a tremendous, tremendous disappointment to see once again this vital piece of equipment may be delayed. And it can all go back to a single, solitary decision and a flippant and callous stroke of the pen,” Mr. MacKay said by telephone from Victoria.
“It was done to great political attention at the time, by former prime minister Chrétien, and as a direct result of that decision here we are again pulling ourselves out of a hole, playing catch-up.”
Mr. MacKay said the cancellation cost taxpayers $500million in penalties.
The Harper government is assessing whether it is prudent to start seeking financial penalties from Sikorsky for late delivery, Mr. MacKay said. His priority is to push Sikorsky to get “back on schedule,” and perhaps even add extra choppers to the one-a-month delivery schedule specified by the contract.
“We’re going to continue working with Sikorsky. We’re going to try to pin them down a little bit further on what the timelines are. There are penalties and clauses that will kick in.”
Mr. MacKay ruled out cancelling the Sikorsky contract and bringing back the EH101s, saying that in the end the Liberals eventually bought a good helicopter. Still, he accused the party of tying itself in knots to avoid opting for the EH-10 that they had rejected.
“To be political, which I am, that was the Liberal government swallowing itself whole, turning itself inside-out. They delayed it for a number of years again, for crass political reasons. It was short sighted, completely politically motivated and yet we came away with what was a pretty good aircraft.”
Mr. MacKay also disclosed that the Defence Department is in the initial stages of looking at “about a half a dozen possible replacement” options for eight of 18 old Aurora coastal patrol planes.
The air force is going ahead with structural upgrades of the remaining Auroras.
With a possible federal election looming, Mr. MacKay pledged that any future military procurement would not repeat the mistakes of the past.
http://digital.nationalpost.com/epaper/viewer.aspx
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Here it was ...
http://clarity.forumotion.com/basket-cases-f19/callous-chretien-t89.htm
I kept meaning to read it...
so now I get an other opportunity...
http://clarity.forumotion.com/basket-cases-f19/callous-chretien-t89.htm
I kept meaning to read it...
so now I get an other opportunity...
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$500million in penalties.
Well.. I see 500 mil in penalties back..
Chretien figured we didn't need the choppers cause he had his lips pasted firmly to every powerful ass in the world..
Mr. MacKay pledged that any future military procurement would not repeat the mistakes of the past.
Well.. thank goodness for that.
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Indolence is a delightful but distressing state; we must be doing something to be happy.
Ghandi
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Thought for today... What the hell?
In my mail Revenue Canada asks me when I am going to complete my 2006 income tax return?
I call them up and said I did and they cashed my $1600 cheque last April.
No record of that the blood sucker says but gives me a 1-800 number.
Those guys tell me they did credit the Cheque but I didn't use the correct Income tax forms. So they sent it back and requested I do it over.
Beats me, never saw them. Anyway now I have to go find 2006 income tax papers and redo it?
Bah humbug.
The tax was computer generated and on a hard drive I cant access properly.
Oh well next week..
In my mail Revenue Canada asks me when I am going to complete my 2006 income tax return?
I call them up and said I did and they cashed my $1600 cheque last April.
No record of that the blood sucker says but gives me a 1-800 number.
Those guys tell me they did credit the Cheque but I didn't use the correct Income tax forms. So they sent it back and requested I do it over.
Beats me, never saw them. Anyway now I have to go find 2006 income tax papers and redo it?
Bah humbug.
The tax was computer generated and on a hard drive I cant access properly.
Oh well next week..
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ahhh crap Z,....
That sucks..
I've thought about doing my own taxes... but I don't want to deal with the IRS.. ever.
So.. I use H&R. It's business anyway.
good luck on that though...
That sucks..
I've thought about doing my own taxes... but I don't want to deal with the IRS.. ever.
So.. I use H&R. It's business anyway.
good luck on that though...

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Another Ranting thought.
In Aug I was looking to buy a new fridge. The old one works fine except the door seal is leaky. So I waltz down to McIvers as they have good advertising. I decide to let them fix it.
$198 for the door seals. Labour free 1/2 hour job.
They order in the parts. Then a month later say they need a bunch of jobs in Surrey to warrant sending the truck and fixer. Then they have them they call and want to install it some time between 10 and 2pm next day. Sorry nobody home at that time.
Another month or two goes by. Same thing. Nobody here when they can make it.
Finally 3 1/2 months later decide to buy a new fridge from Sears.
I call MCIvers and ask if they can restock the parts (for a fee) and return the balance?
Nope. They will return the $198 when they sell the seals to somebody else.
So I says what if they never sell them? What if I drop dead who would know they owe me $198? Will they pay the credit card interest for the 4 or 8 years it takes? (snicker)
They will get back to me ....
So today I call Better Business Bureau to ask if I have a case for complaint?
Not if it is their policy they say. But they will mail me a complaint form.
I can see them taking a restocking fee but not sure they can hang on to the lot for years?
For all I know they sold the seals to some other mutton and forgot about it.
$198 is at least 2 golf games and a few jugs at Northview.
In Aug I was looking to buy a new fridge. The old one works fine except the door seal is leaky. So I waltz down to McIvers as they have good advertising. I decide to let them fix it.
$198 for the door seals. Labour free 1/2 hour job.
They order in the parts. Then a month later say they need a bunch of jobs in Surrey to warrant sending the truck and fixer. Then they have them they call and want to install it some time between 10 and 2pm next day. Sorry nobody home at that time.
Another month or two goes by. Same thing. Nobody here when they can make it.
Finally 3 1/2 months later decide to buy a new fridge from Sears.
I call MCIvers and ask if they can restock the parts (for a fee) and return the balance?
Nope. They will return the $198 when they sell the seals to somebody else.
So I says what if they never sell them? What if I drop dead who would know they owe me $198? Will they pay the credit card interest for the 4 or 8 years it takes? (snicker)
They will get back to me ....
So today I call Better Business Bureau to ask if I have a case for complaint?
Not if it is their policy they say. But they will mail me a complaint form.
I can see them taking a restocking fee but not sure they can hang on to the lot for years?
For all I know they sold the seals to some other mutton and forgot about it.
$198 is at least 2 golf games and a few jugs at Northview.
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Two hundred bucks is a lot of jing to realize no benefit from Z...
I'd start spamming them with letter and phone call requests for my money....
And I would..
Shyte like that drives me batty. I refuse to be taken..
I become as tenacious as a border collie in a flock of sheep...
In fact... I'm sure they just call me "that crazy woman" at Staples and the Source... and everyone at the store knows who they mean.. lol
I tell ya though. I get way better service at Staples...
I'd start spamming them with letter and phone call requests for my money....
And I would..
Shyte like that drives me batty. I refuse to be taken..
I become as tenacious as a border collie in a flock of sheep...
In fact... I'm sure they just call me "that crazy woman" at Staples and the Source... and everyone at the store knows who they mean.. lol
I tell ya though. I get way better service at Staples...
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Heh hee. Next time you are in Vancouver... we can split the refund!
Today's thought is to watch the World's women Championship at Sun City SA.
I played that course (Gary Player Country Club) in 1994. Temp. was 31 C.
If you slice into the bush you shouldn't look for the ball. Snakes!
The casino there is a cave motif. Hewn out of rock.
Awesome.
http://www.sun-city-south-africa.go2africa.com/golf.asp
Today's thought is to watch the World's women Championship at Sun City SA.
I played that course (Gary Player Country Club) in 1994. Temp. was 31 C.
If you slice into the bush you shouldn't look for the ball. Snakes!
The casino there is a cave motif. Hewn out of rock.
Awesome.
http://www.sun-city-south-africa.go2africa.com/golf.asp
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.. and only 1,480.23 CAD for 6 night stay with a trip to Victoria Falls...
http://www.sun-city-south-africa.go2africa.com/sun-packages/tours-temp.asp?TourID=392
That's cheap..!
Of course... you'd spend a fortune while your there..
http://www.sun-city-south-africa.go2africa.com/sun-packages/tours-temp.asp?TourID=392
That's cheap..!
Of course... you'd spend a fortune while your there..

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Mama mia.
I thought I knew it all. Well mostly.
OK some things, To be exact pretty near buggerall!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U2nDaXUJ-c&NR=1
Damn thats the wrong Video. Its not magic. My kidneys prove it. Whiskey and water (of sorts) change places.
First get this bit down pat.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pbuoy.html
Then check out this video of melting ice. Try to contain your excitement.
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/01/tim_ball_and_archimedes_princi.php
So will global warming melt the ice and flood Mahattan as eco-terrorists claim? Nope relax and thank old Archimedes. The polar ice cap is floating in the ocean. One big ice cube. It's weight is equal to the weight of the water displaced. So if it melts in the next few hundred years the sea level will barely rise.
If the ice is floating (e.g. the Arctic polar cap), then NONE of it melting would contribute to a sea level rise. That's exactly what the Archimedes principle implies.
In order to float, in fact, a body must receive a "push up" exactly equivalent to its own weight; the Archimedes principle states that the amount of "push up" corresponds exactly to the weight of the water displaced by the body.
In other words, the weight of the Arctic polar cap corresponds exactly to the weight of the water displaced by it (i.e. a volume identical to the UNDERWATER ice). What happens when you melt the ice? Its weight does not change, so you have water weighing exactly as much as... the former underwater portion of the polar cap!
No change in sea level, period.
Posted by: Aureola Nominee, FCD | January 18, 2008 4:49 PM
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re 11, iced volumes. Actually, sea ice tends to be fresher than sea water, and therefore lower density, when melted.
In my good old familiar boat design units, fresh water is about 62.4 lbs/ft3, and sea water about 64 lbs/ft3.
The volume of sea water displaced is that necessary to balance the weight of the floating ice. The volume of fresh water released when the sea ice melts is slightly larger (because lower density) than the salt water displaced by the sea ice. Melting floating sea ice composed of lower-density fresher water will tend to cause a slight increase in sea level.
Posted by: Lee | January 18, 2008 5:02 PM
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Lee in #12 makes an excellent point that I was planning to make myself had he not done so.
However, there is yet another complication of the question. Everyone who has taken a freshman physics class learns what Lambert explains here: that the floating ice, with weight W, displaces a volume of water with weight W, so that when the ice itself becomes water, it occupies the same volume that the solid was displacing. This argument glosses over one fact, though: The volume of liquid water is not exactly constant, even though it is close enough for the demonstration with an ice cube in a glass to have no visible change in water level.
In fact, for temperatures above 4 degrees Celsius, water expands when heated and contracts when cooled. When ice melts in a body of water, the body of water becomes colder and thus contracts. So, when you let an ice cube melt in a glass of freshwater, the water level does drop, very slightly, until the water warms back up to the temperature it was before the ice melted.
Posted by: Edward | January 19, 2008 10:17 AM
Wake up Lily and Rosie. No sleeping when scientific papers are pasted!

I thought I knew it all. Well mostly.
OK some things, To be exact pretty near buggerall!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U2nDaXUJ-c&NR=1
Damn thats the wrong Video. Its not magic. My kidneys prove it. Whiskey and water (of sorts) change places.
First get this bit down pat.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/pbuoy.html
Then check out this video of melting ice. Try to contain your excitement.
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/01/tim_ball_and_archimedes_princi.php
So will global warming melt the ice and flood Mahattan as eco-terrorists claim? Nope relax and thank old Archimedes. The polar ice cap is floating in the ocean. One big ice cube. It's weight is equal to the weight of the water displaced. So if it melts in the next few hundred years the sea level will barely rise.
If the ice is floating (e.g. the Arctic polar cap), then NONE of it melting would contribute to a sea level rise. That's exactly what the Archimedes principle implies.
In order to float, in fact, a body must receive a "push up" exactly equivalent to its own weight; the Archimedes principle states that the amount of "push up" corresponds exactly to the weight of the water displaced by the body.
In other words, the weight of the Arctic polar cap corresponds exactly to the weight of the water displaced by it (i.e. a volume identical to the UNDERWATER ice). What happens when you melt the ice? Its weight does not change, so you have water weighing exactly as much as... the former underwater portion of the polar cap!
No change in sea level, period.
Posted by: Aureola Nominee, FCD | January 18, 2008 4:49 PM
=============================
re 11, iced volumes. Actually, sea ice tends to be fresher than sea water, and therefore lower density, when melted.
In my good old familiar boat design units, fresh water is about 62.4 lbs/ft3, and sea water about 64 lbs/ft3.
The volume of sea water displaced is that necessary to balance the weight of the floating ice. The volume of fresh water released when the sea ice melts is slightly larger (because lower density) than the salt water displaced by the sea ice. Melting floating sea ice composed of lower-density fresher water will tend to cause a slight increase in sea level.
Posted by: Lee | January 18, 2008 5:02 PM
================================
Lee in #12 makes an excellent point that I was planning to make myself had he not done so.
However, there is yet another complication of the question. Everyone who has taken a freshman physics class learns what Lambert explains here: that the floating ice, with weight W, displaces a volume of water with weight W, so that when the ice itself becomes water, it occupies the same volume that the solid was displacing. This argument glosses over one fact, though: The volume of liquid water is not exactly constant, even though it is close enough for the demonstration with an ice cube in a glass to have no visible change in water level.
In fact, for temperatures above 4 degrees Celsius, water expands when heated and contracts when cooled. When ice melts in a body of water, the body of water becomes colder and thus contracts. So, when you let an ice cube melt in a glass of freshwater, the water level does drop, very slightly, until the water warms back up to the temperature it was before the ice melted.
Posted by: Edward | January 19, 2008 10:17 AM
Wake up Lily and Rosie. No sleeping when scientific papers are pasted!

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