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Post by calmage on Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:16 pm

Money for nothing


Whadaya mean... money for nothing...???!!!???

It's all part of Obama's stimulus plan..

Socialist make-work projects...
And we'll take a widdow bit of harmless CO2 outa da air while we're making work...

And don't say anything bad about Obama... or we'll slam you on a billboard in your home town...

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Heh heh.

Post by Zoofer on Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:21 pm

In the next little while there should be some fireworks over GW scam.
Ontario has gone green berserk. Their last chance of a comeback down the tube. The Heartland meeting of sceptics is about to start.
Some sceptics.. Scam and Trade.
According to Fortune Magazine, if JPMorgan can “distribute 10 million stoves… you could be looking at a business with modest costs and between $200 million and $450 million a year in revenues.” ...
http://townhall.com/columnists/TomBorelli/2009/03/07/cap_and_trade_wall_streets_latest_scheme


...and this.
Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels may have “soared” from 280 ppm to 385 ppm over the last century. But this represents an almost trivial rise from 0.03% of the atmosphere to 0.04% – the equivalent of an increase from 3 cents to 4 out of $100, or from 1.08 inches to 1.44 inches on a football field. The dominant greenhouse gas is water vapor, which nature controls via evaporation and precipitation.
Planetary temperatures may have increased during the last century, as CO2 levels increased. But not in a straight line. They rose 1900-1940 (1934 was the century’s warmest year), fell 1940-1975, rose again 1975-1998, then stabilized and even declined slightly from 1998 to 2008.

http://townhall.com/columnists/PaulDriessen/2009/03/07/global_warming_bait-and-switch

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Not a joke!

Post by Zoofer on Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:29 pm

John, the farmer, was in the fertilized egg business.
He had several hundred young layers (hens), called "pullets," and ten roosters, whose job it was to fertilize the eggs..
The farmer kept records and any rooster that didn't perform went into the soup pot and was replaced.
That took an awful lot of his time, so he bought a set of tiny bells and attached them to his roosters.
Each bell had a different tone so John could tell from a distance, which rooster was performing.
Now he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report simply by listening to the bells.
The farmer's favorite rooster was old Albert, and a very fine specimen he was, too.
But on this particular morning John noticed old Albert's bell hadn't rung at all!
John went to investigate.The other roosters were chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing.
The pullets, hearing the roosters coming, would run for cover, making the job much more difficult for those younger roosters.
But to Farmer John's amazement, old Albert had it figured out. He had his bell in his beak, so it couldn't ring.
Then, he would sneak up on a pullet, do his job, and walk on to the next one.
John was so proud of old Albert, he entered him in the County Fair and he became an overnight sensation among the judges.
The result...The judges not only awarded old Albert the No Bell Piece Prize, but they also awarded him the Pullet Surprise, as well.
Clearly old Albert was a politician in the making:
Who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most highly coveted awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the populace and screwing them when they weren't paying attention?

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Re: The Real Results of "Combating" Global Warming

Post by calmage on Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:35 am


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Re: The Real Results of "Combating" Global Warming

Post by Dirtman on Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:54 pm

Scientists claim they can fight global warming by firing trillions of mirrors into space to deflect the sun's rays forming a 100,000 square mile "sun shade".


I thought this was a joke but I think they might actually be serious! pale

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/globalwarming/4839985/Scientists-to-stop-global-warming-with-100000-square-mile-sun-shade.html

They projected a scenario for the next 100 years based on climate change continuing at the current rate. Let's see, let me think a bit. Since the current climate change is a rather steep cooling trend, it would be damned cold in 100 years. Seems they missed that.

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Re: The Real Results of "Combating" Global Warming

Post by Dirtman on Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:17 pm

I don't think these guys have quite figured out what melting means:

Team battles Arctic winter to measure melting ice caps

It could be the ultimate test of human endurance: Three British explorers are risking their lives in subzero temperatures to measure the melting Arctic ice cap.
A member of the polar exploration team perches on skis inside the Arctic Circle.

The team is on a three-month, 621-mile (1,000-kilometer) hike to their final destination at the North Pole. Along the way, taking precise measurements to determine exactly how fast the ice cap is disappearing.

"It's extremely difficult to live out here. It's very, very easy to get cold injuries in seconds," said Martin Hartley, team photographer and filmmaker, via satellite phone.

The team has been braving temperatures as low as minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit/Celsius spending their nights sleeping in tents and their days trudging across the shifting, barren polar expanse.



Ya think maybe they might have a little more success if they tried it in summertime?
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/03/11/arctic.ice.explorers/index.html

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Re: The Real Results of "Combating" Global Warming

Post by calmage on Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:59 am

And don't they have satellites that can measure ice melt and spread..??

Sounds like some radical survival types figured out how to get funding to freeze their asses off so they can say they went to the North Pole..

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Post by Zoofer on Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:44 am

I think the believed the BS that the cap was melting due to high temperatures so they set out on a summer hike in their thongs and tee shirts.
pale

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Re: The Real Results of "Combating" Global Warming

Post by Dirtman on Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:49 pm

calmage wrote:And don't they have satellites that can measure ice melt and spread..??

Sounds like some radical survival types figured out how to get funding to freeze their asses off so they can say they went to the North Pole..


Since much of the melt occcurs due to water currents, it's unlikely that thickness would be uniform. Even the picture of them shows how it can thrust up and make hummocks. So how are they measuring it? Drills? Ice auger? And then they wouldn't have a comprehensive measurment, only a thin line of measurments that would be irrelevant as an indicator of the thickness of the whole cap. Yeah, the only measurments of any accuracy are by satellite. It's just a scam to get funding so they can go on hiking adventures that someone else pays for.


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Re: The Real Results of "Combating" Global Warming

Post by calmage on Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:53 pm

It's just a scam to get funding so they can go on hiking adventures that someone else pays for.




We concur.

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Re: The Real Results of "Combating" Global Warming

Post by Dirtman on Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:41 pm



Nobody listens to the real climate change experts
The minds of world leaders are firmly shut to anything but the fantasies of the scaremongers, says Christopher Booker.

Considering how the fear of global warming is inspiring the world's politicians to put forward the most costly and economically damaging package of measures ever imposed on mankind, it is obviously important that we can trust the basis on which all this is being proposed. Last week two international conferences addressed this issue and the contrast between them could not have been starker.

The first in Copenhagen, billed as "an emergency summit on climate change" and attracting acres of worldwide media coverage, was explicitly designed to stoke up the fear of global warming to an unprecedented pitch. As one of the organisers put it, "this is not a regular scientific conference: this is a deliberate attempt to influence policy".

What worries them are all the signs that when the world's politicians converge on Copenhagen in December to discuss a successor to the Kyoto Protocol, under the guidance of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), there will be so much disagreement that they may not get the much more drastic measures to cut carbon emissions that the alarmists are calling for.

Thus the name of the game last week, as we see from a sample of quotations, was to win headlines by claiming that everything is far worse than previously supposed. Sea level rises by 2100 could be "much greater than the 59cm predicted by the last IPCC report". Global warming could kill off 85 per cent of the Amazon rainforest, "much more than previously predicted". The ice caps in Greenland and Antarctica are melting "much faster than predicted". The number of people dying from heat could be "twice as many as previously predicted".

None of the government-funded scientists making these claims were particularly distinguished, but they succeeded in their object, as the media cheerfully recycled all this wild scaremongering without bothering to check the scientific facts.

What a striking contrast this was to the second conference, which I attended with 700 others in New York, organised by the Heartland Institute under the title Global Warming: Was It Ever Really A Crisis?. In Britain this received no coverage at all, apart from a sneering mention by The Guardian, although it was addressed by dozens of expert scientists, not a few of world rank, who for professional standing put those in Copenhagen in the shade.

Led off with stirring speeches from the Czech President Vaclav Klaus, the acting head of the European Union, and Professor Richard Lindzen of MIT, perhaps the most distinguished climatologist in the world, the message of this gathering was that the scare over global warming has been deliberately stoked up for political reasons and has long since parted company with proper scientific evidence.

Nothing has more acutely demonstrated this than the reliance of the IPCC on computer models to predict what is going to happen to global temperatures over the next 100 years. On these predictions, that temperatures are likely to rise by up to 5.3C, all their other predictions and recommendations depend, yet nearly 10 years into the 21st century it is already painfully clear that the computer forecasts are going hopelessly astray. Far from rising with CO2, as the models are programmed to predict they should, the satellite-measured temperature curve has flattened out and then dropped. If the present trend were to continue, the world in 2100 would not in fact be hotter but 1.1C cooler than the 1979-1998 average.

Yet it is on this fundamental inability of the computer models to predict what has already happened that all else hangs. For two days in New York we heard distinguished experts, such as Professor Syun-Ichi Akasofu, former director of the International Arctic Research Center, Dr Willie Soon of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics and Professor Paul Reiter of the Pasteur Institute, authoritatively (and often wittily) tear apart one piece of the scare orthodoxy after another.

Sea levels are not shooting up but only continuing their modest 3mm a year rise over the past 200 years. The vast Antarctic ice-sheet is not melting, except in one tiny corner, the Antarctic Peninsula. Tropical hurricane activity, far from increasing, is at its lowest level for 30 years. The best correlation for temperature fluctuations is not CO2 but the magnetic activity of the sun. (For an admirable summary of proceedings by the Australian paleoclimatologist Professor Bob Carter, Google "Heartland" and "Quadrant").

Yet the terrifying thing, as President Klaus observed in his magisterial opening address, is that there is no dialogue on these issues. When recently at the World Economic Forum in Davos, he found the minds of his fellow world leaders firmly shut to anything but the fantasies of the scaremongers. As I said in my own modest contribution to the conference, there seems little doubt that global warming is leading the world towards an unprecedented catastrophe. But it is not the Technicolor apocalypse promised by the likes of Al Gore. The real disaster hanging over us lies in all those astronomically costly measures proposed by politicians, to meet a crisis which in reality never existed.


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Post by Zoofer on Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:48 am

It's mass hysteria now. Too bad the kids and grandkids will be stuck with the bills.

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Post by Zoofer on Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:14 am

UW-Milwaukee Study Could Realign Climate Change Theory
Scientists Claim Earth Is Undergoing Natural Climate Shift

Scientists said that the air and ocean systems of the earth are now showing signs of synchronizing with each other.
Eventually, the systems begin to couple and the synchronous state is destroyed, leading to a climate shift.

"In climate, when this happens, the climate state changes. You go from a cooling regime to a warming regime or a warming regime to a cooling regime. This way we were able to explain all the fluctuations in the global temperature trend in the past century," Tsonis said. "The research team has found the warming trend of the past 30 years has stopped and in fact global temperatures have leveled off since 2001."
The most recent climate shift probably occurred at about the year 2000.

http://www.wisn.com/weather/18935841/detail.html

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Post by calmage on Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:25 pm

It's mass hysteria now.


Yup.

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Post by Dirtman on Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:33 pm

Why Al Gore Was Never Circumcised

There's no end to the prick.

There's a severe water shortage in Adelaide, Aussie. The government has recently banned cosmetic surgury in public hospitals and one pro-circumcision doctor extoled the many benefits of the proceedure, one of them being:

“We will save many litres of water if more men were circumcised because there would be less fiddling in the shower to keep it clean.”


http://www.borderwatch.com.au/archives/2540#ixzz09vQIbcSy

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